Would You Buy A Chinese or Indian Truck?

In a recent study, the question wether Americans would give Chinese and Indian cars/brands a chance was asked and much to my surprised quite a few Americans/U.S. Consumers said yes!! Now this got me thinking in off road sense and I ask you, the off road fans, would you consider buying a Chinese or Indian Truck for your off road adventures??? If so, what would you expect from that truck? What differences would you need to see from and Ford, Chevy, or Dodge in order to buy a Chinese or Indian truck??

Source: autopacific  
Life....it's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep pushing forward, how much you can take and keep pushing forward! - Rocky Balboa

Honestly, I wouldn't. Not at first at least.

Look at Kia for example. When they came to the US 10 years ago their vehicles were crap. Now they build a pretty decent car. So if a Chinese or Indian company brings an off road truck to the US market I personally would wait at least until the first model cycle passes and the vehicle has proven its self.

That said, buy American. Support the country we live in.  
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'99 Ranger LT 4x4

www.dixonbrosracing.com

I used to have a made in China quad. I rode it four time and it had to go back to the dealership three times for electrical issues, engine issues, ball joint came apart, and steering issues. I didn't get to ride it more than 10 to 15 minutes before these issues would happen. I am sorry, China can stuff it. They don't have any quailty. After my quad [and several other people that own them where I live], I don't think I would trust a country that places safety and human life on the back-burner. I think it would be a new extreme sport to own a made in China car, I can see it now, traveling down the inner-state at 70 miles an hour with a new car that I don't think will hold together when it hits the first crack in the rode.  

What if they have a 10-year warranty and have proven them selves?

The difference between your quad and a truck is that the truck is held to high safety standards and must pass all sorts of government tests before it is able to be sold in the United States, where with the quad this isn't the case.  
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'99 Ranger LT 4x4

www.dixonbrosracing.com

sorry to say, I worked at a dealership before the down turn in the economy and have seen first hand what the government passes as safety standards and its a good thing vehicles have air bags. At a dealership you are at a certain amount of time to inspect and repair factory flaws. I was working as journayman trailer mechanic at western star truck dealership and we did work dodge vehicles under warranty both [both own by diamler] and I can not count how many ball joint, tie rod, and wheel bearing I would have to do in a week and these were on truck were pass 25,000km or about 15,000 mile [I live in Canada]. My own personal truck, a 2007 ford ranger 2wd with 2.3 stick only has 55,000km or about 30,000 miles all street driven and it needs its suspension completely redone. The safety reg. are fairly the same if not a little strictor here than most states. I know from personnal exp. that 10 years ago vehicles were not this bad, or 20 or more years.
my favorite saying now when I talk to people about newer vehicles is that engineers built the space shuttle challeger with a 50 cent "O" ring, they should have used a 60 cent one. I am just saying there is a reason the cheaps at the auto parts don't last and that most of these parts come from china, india, and/or mexico which to say a good portion of new vehicle parts come from and now you want a car from these countries. Hey, its your life and money, I don't have to worry, as soon as the ranger is paid off, I am selling it and sticking fixing up and driving old truck.  

welder_wrench:
sorry to say, I worked at a dealership before the down turn in the economy and have seen first hand what the government passes as safety standards and its a good thing vehicles have air bags. At a dealership you are at a certain amount of time to inspect and repair factory flaws. I was working as journayman trailer mechanic at western star truck dealership and we did work dodge vehicles under warranty both [both own by diamler] and I can not count how many ball joint, tie rod, and wheel bearing I would have to do in a week and these were on truck were pass 25,000km or about 15,000 mile [I live in Canada]. My own personal truck, a 2007 ford ranger 2wd with 2.3 stick only has 55,000km or about 30,000 miles all street driven and it needs its suspension completely redone. The safety reg. are fairly the same if not a little strictor here than most states. I know from personnal exp. that 10 years ago vehicles were not this bad, or 20 or more years.
my favorite saying now when I talk to people about newer vehicles is that engineers built the space shuttle challeger with a 50 cent "O" ring, they should have used a 60 cent one. I am just saying there is a reason the cheaps at the auto parts don't last and that most of these parts come from china, india, and/or mexico which to say a good portion of new vehicle parts come from and now you want a car from these countries. Hey, its your life and money, I don't have to worry, as soon as the ranger is paid off, I am selling it and sticking fixing up and driving old truck.

Hmmmm....well you are right, how does the saying go...they don't build them like they used to!! I think that the warranties are there for a reason and don't think that at this point in time the automakers will just build a car with the cheapest parts in the world. I think there quality has come up tremendously and trucks/cars have fewer problems today than they did 10 years ago.

The one thing I will say today though is that trucks 15 years ago were solid trucks. You could lean on them without leaving a dent. Today trucks are very fragile compared to the monsters that were back then.  

I still wouldn't rule anything out.

Look at Hundai/Kia. Ten years ago they were throw away cars and now they are a respectable brand. So we just have to wait and see.  
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'99 Ranger LT 4x4

www.dixonbrosracing.com

The problem with the stuff I had told you guys about is that none of it is covered under warranty. Maybe these brands will get better in ten years or so, but after my fun with dealing with my quad which is still held to safety standards here in Canada, I don't want to be the first one to try a possible death trap. Not to get to political if China really cared about safety and quaulity why don't they start with there people first, and then I might trust a car from them. I done see any of us lining up in this ression to work in a chiness mine if that goes with out saying.  

All valid points. Just playing devils advocate.  
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'99 Ranger LT 4x4

www.dixonbrosracing.com

Just to throw this at you, lets look at something that has been on the market for a little while from China. First, lets set the seen, you broke down out in the middle of nowhere. you have your off road tool box. You need  a 1/2" wrench to fix your truck. The bolt is pretty rusty. You have a "made in China" wrench. It doesn't handle the torque needed to break looses the bolt and the wrench snaps. You are now screwed. Like I said before, I am a mechanic and a ticketed welder, I have been here before doing service calls, I have been running my own side business doing nothing but service calls. I need that wrench to hold together. I am not saying everyone should have all snap-on or mac tools, God knows I don't. But with brands like westward, gray, matco [which we don't get up in Canada], husky, craftsman, mastercraft [a brand we get up in Canada only, they are good and affordable], cresent, proto, even jet tools. With all the money we have spent on "made in China" tools and they still haven't made anything with any quaility yet and we would expect the same with a "made in China" Car!  

welder_wrench:
sorry to say, I worked at a dealership before the down turn in the economy and have seen first hand what the government passes as safety standards and its a good thing vehicles have air bags. At a dealership you are at a certain amount of time to inspect and repair factory flaws. I was working as journayman trailer mechanic at western star truck dealership and we did work dodge vehicles under warranty both [both own by diamler] and I can not count how many ball joint, tie rod, and wheel bearing I would have to do in a week and these were on truck were pass 25,000km or about 15,000 mile [I live in Canada]. My own personal truck, a 2007 ford ranger 2wd with 2.3 stick only has 55,000km or about 30,000 miles all street driven and it needs its suspension completely redone. The safety reg. are fairly the same if not a little strictor here than most states. I know from personnal exp. that 10 years ago vehicles were not this bad, or 20 or more years.
my favorite saying now when I talk to people about newer vehicles is that engineers built the space shuttle challeger with a 50 cent "O" ring, they should have used a 60 cent one. I am just saying there is a reason the cheaps at the auto parts don't last and that most of these parts come from china, india, and/or mexico which to say a good portion of new vehicle parts come from and now you want a car from these countries. Hey, its your life and money, I don't have to worry, as soon as the ranger is paid off, I am selling it and sticking fixing up and driving old truck.

mustangsalltheway:
Hmmmm....well you are right, how does the saying go...they don't build them like they used to!! I think that the warranties are there for a reason and don't think that at this point in time the automakers will just build a car with the cheapest parts in the world. I think there quality has come up tremendously and trucks/cars have fewer problems today than they did 10 years ago.

The one thing I will say today though is that trucks 15 years ago were solid trucks. You could lean on them without leaving a dent. Today trucks are very fragile compared to the monsters that were back then.







Vehicles today are having far worst problems then before  

welder_wrench:
sorry to say, I worked at a dealership before the down turn in the economy and have seen first hand what the government passes as safety standards and its a good thing vehicles have air bags. At a dealership you are at a certain amount of time to inspect and repair factory flaws. I was working as journayman trailer mechanic at western star truck dealership and we did work dodge vehicles under warranty both [both own by diamler] and I can not count how many ball joint, tie rod, and wheel bearing I would have to do in a week and these were on truck were pass 25,000km or about 15,000 mile [I live in Canada]. My own personal truck, a 2007 ford ranger 2wd with 2.3 stick only has 55,000km or about 30,000 miles all street driven and it needs its suspension completely redone. The safety reg. are fairly the same if not a little strictor here than most states. I know from personnal exp. that 10 years ago vehicles were not this bad, or 20 or more years.
my favorite saying now when I talk to people about newer vehicles is that engineers built the space shuttle challeger with a 50 cent "O" ring, they should have used a 60 cent one. I am just saying there is a reason the cheaps at the auto parts don't last and that most of these parts come from china, india, and/or mexico which to say a good portion of new vehicle parts come from and now you want a car from these countries. Hey, its your life and money, I don't have to worry, as soon as the ranger is paid off, I am selling it and sticking fixing up and driving old truck.

mustangsalltheway:
Hmmmm....well you are right, how does the saying go...they don't build them like they used to!! I think that the warranties are there for a reason and don't think that at this point in time the automakers will just build a car with the cheapest parts in the world. I think there quality has come up tremendously and trucks/cars have fewer problems today than they did 10 years ago.

The one thing I will say today though is that trucks 15 years ago were solid trucks. You could lean on them without leaving a dent. Today trucks are very fragile compared to the monsters that were back then.

welder_wrench:






Vehicles today are having far worst problems then before

I can see vehicles having more problems than before on certain departments..not all. For example safety issues that have been taken care off at this point today were non-existent 10/15 years ago. Seat belts were primative back then comapared to today. Newer technology are being implemented on todays cars that people had no idea could be fit into a car.

At the same time yes because of this new technology there are some cars that seem to be in the hands of mechanics once ever 4 to 6 months. All I'm saying is that a lot of the problems vehicles have today were non-existant back then.  
Life....it's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep pushing forward, how much you can take and keep pushing forward! - Rocky Balboa

welder_wrench:
sorry to say, I worked at a dealership before the down turn in the economy and have seen first hand what the government passes as safety standards and its a good thing vehicles have air bags. At a dealership you are at a certain amount of time to inspect and repair factory flaws. I was working as journayman trailer mechanic at western star truck dealership and we did work dodge vehicles under warranty both [both own by diamler] and I can not count how many ball joint, tie rod, and wheel bearing I would have to do in a week and these were on truck were pass 25,000km or about 15,000 mile [I live in Canada]. My own personal truck, a 2007 ford ranger 2wd with 2.3 stick only has 55,000km or about 30,000 miles all street driven and it needs its suspension completely redone. The safety reg. are fairly the same if not a little strictor here than most states. I know from personnal exp. that 10 years ago vehicles were not this bad, or 20 or more years.
my favorite saying now when I talk to people about newer vehicles is that engineers built the space shuttle challeger with a 50 cent "O" ring, they should have used a 60 cent one. I am just saying there is a reason the cheaps at the auto parts don't last and that most of these parts come from china, india, and/or mexico which to say a good portion of new vehicle parts come from and now you want a car from these countries. Hey, its your life and money, I don't have to worry, as soon as the ranger is paid off, I am selling it and sticking fixing up and driving old truck.

mustangsalltheway:
Hmmmm....well you are right, how does the saying go...they don't build them like they used to!! I think that the warranties are there for a reason and don't think that at this point in time the automakers will just build a car with the cheapest parts in the world. I think there quality has come up tremendously and trucks/cars have fewer problems today than they did 10 years ago.

The one thing I will say today though is that trucks 15 years ago were solid trucks. You could lean on them without leaving a dent. Today trucks are very fragile compared to the monsters that were back then.

welder_wrench:






Vehicles today are having far worst problems then before

I don't see it that way. I mean yes you can see the glass half empty but I'll stick to seeing it half full. I still think that trucks today are better when it comes to performance, quality, and above all safety!!  

Performance, safety maybe, but quality isn't that great now, there are far more recalls today then before. Trucks coming into the dealership I worked at had all kinds of problems. One of the biggest is the government reg. They are not giving car companies time to catch up to their standards. Cat is now not building engines for big rigs because they are to hard to keep up with reg. Even cummins are starting to lose quality and are starting to have problems that they didn't have before and they were seen as the standard. I now know truck drivers completely rebuilding there old rigs from the late 80's and early 90's when trucks still had mechanical fuel injection because they don't break down as much. These break down were starting costing more than there fuel bills! Sorry to say, I don't think the government standards are going to protect us when it comes to a "made in China" car. I see what they do for Domestics and think a cheaply made car made by a country that doesn't care about the lives of its own people and then try and sell it to us when we aren't doing that good with our own quality. Hey, its your life dude.  

Don't always trust the government opinon when it come to vehicle safety and quality.